On behalf of your friends and family who are sick of listening to you but are too polite to stop you, I’m offering 6 things you can do instead of nursing your irrational hatred for Donald Trump. You believe you’re doing a good thing when you “expose Trump’s vile behavior”. You’re wrong. We prefer Trump’s behavior to your endless bloviation because Trump is far away. We can ignore him. You are right here with us and you won’t shut-up. Instead of annoying us, consider doing one (or more) of the following:

Learn to play the theremin. – It’s tricky to play an instrument you don’t touch and the theremin has a weird sound. It looks cool when you play it though. At first, playing it will drive pets and loved ones out of the house just like when you rant about Trump but with practice you’ll improve and someday people will WANT to listen to you.

Visit some old people. Old people are lonely and sad. It would make them happy if you obsessed over them for awhile. Play cards with them or just let them tell you their nutty ideas. They’ll feel good because you listened. You’ll feel good because they aren’t members of Congress. Everybody wins.

Do Mixed Martial Arts. Odds are good that you’ll get hurt and that will be your new obsession. Nothing focuses your attention like physical injury. While you’re nursing a compound fracture, Donald Trump will be the farthest thing from your mind.

Take a comedy workshop. Research shows that laughter is good for you. Dour cynicism, on the other hand, is not good for you – or anyone else. As a professional comedian, I’m telling you that people are eager to hear your views when you’re entertaining. Learn to be funny so your angry rants won’t be so painfully predictable and dull.

Take a vow of silence. See how long it takes your friends and family to notice that you’re not a raving lunatic anymore. Make it a game. If it takes less than an hour, you should book an appointment with a therapist. When your friends quickly notice a lack of vitriolic spew, you’ve got issues that require professional attention.

Obsess over someone more deserving. Trump is just a man. Obsess over the One who made both Donald Trump and YOU. Trump will not be President forever. God will be God for eternity. You’re going to give someone space in your head so make sure it’s someone with permanence.

None of these suggestions require the approval of the federal government! You have the power to toss Trump right out of your life. You also have the power keep giving yourself over to rage, bitterness, and hate. I’ve told you what I think you should do but it’s your call.

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  1. If you read the fine print of Ephesians it does say that you’re allowed to rip Catholics apart.

  2. Heaven forbid we talk to people we disagree with. If that happened some people might be offended.

  3. We Christians haven’t literally torn each other apart for – how long ago was the Irish Troubles? 20 years? So, I feel we can keep the streak going ^_^.

    At least we divide into denominations so we don’t have to regularly talk to people we disagree with. It keeps the dissenters quiet in person, anyway.

    ^_^

  4. No, but I think I misunderstood. I was reading packs as a community, but you were referring to a pack rip other apart. Correct?

  5. I think Christians also run in packs, but we don’t tear each other apart when we disagree.

  6. I clicked Club’s WordPress page just out of curiosity, and one of the first posts was check out my friend John Zande’s book. Was I the only one that didn’t know they were acquainted.

    1. Yes. Atheists run in packs. They are fiercely loyal to each other until one of them strays from the dogma.

      1. so, JB, what “dogma” do atheists have?

        As usual, Christians dont’ think terribly hard about what they post when they do exactly what they claim is horrible if an atheist does it. 🙂

        1. Well, Vel, it’s nice to see you’ve stopped obsessing.

          Atheists have many dogmas. One of the most important ones is the belief that they have no dogmas.

          As usual, you didn’t think terribly hard about what you post.

  7. The best thing is the article is titled “How to Stop Obsessing about Trump. John, what I’m seeing is that you have an ineffective article.

  8. my worldview, which I’m assuming you mean my atheism, is based on the evidence that entirely different events happened when Christians claim that their bible events happened or when any theist’s magic events happened.

    For example, there is no evidence of the claims of the exodus in the bible. Christians have no idea when that was supposed to have happened or who the pharoah was. We have a very complete history of who was pharaoh and when and we have a very complete history of the events in that area, with evidence that the pyramids were built by craftsmen, not slaves, that there were no plagues that would have destroyed all of the crops and food animals of egypt, preventing them from exporting to other countries, that their entire army wasn’t destroyed since none of their enemies attacked and took over Egypt, etc. We have records of things going on as usual.

    We also have the fact that there has not been one bit of evidence of hundreds of thousands of Israelites wandering around an area half the size of Pennsylvania for 4 decades. No burials, no latrines, no garbage middens for all of those supposed quail bones, nothing at all. And the cities of those areas never noticed all of these people wandering around. life went on as usual in them.

    We also have no evidence for the claims that the bible makes for its followers doing miracles. No amputations being healed by Christians who should be clearing out hospitals if their bible isn’t lying. Christians aren’t any better than anyone else, so again, experience and evidence support my atheistic worldview. Your behavior and Amanda’s here is part of that evidence and I’m very grateful for it.

    Thanks to antibiotic resistence that I can see for myself and experience for myself shows that evolutionary theory works and creationists are simply lying. That my smartphone works shows me that the big bang theory is the likely answer to how the universe started since predictions have been shown to be true about relativity.

    1. Thanks to antibiotic resistence that I can see for myself and experience for myself shows that there is intelligence at work in the universe. That my smartphone works evidence that mankind has received intelligence from God since blind evolution cannot explain it.

      Your claims of “no evidence” for various Biblical events is not evidence. Your atheism is faith based, not evidence based.

      1. Well, JB you are making less sense than usual. Absence of evidence can be evidence of absence. Add that to the fact we have evidence for entirely different things occuring when these supposed magical events were happening, and we have a very good probability that the bible is wrong in its claims.

        That antibiotic resistance exists means that your god didn’t create everything perfectly in the “beginning”. And if your god created deadly bacteria to “punish” us because of the “fall”, why allow those bacteria to be thwarted by humans? Evolutionary theory can explain antibiotic resistance with no problem, but you keep yourself willfully ignorant. But here’s a link that you can look at if you stop being afraid of knowledge that shows your religion to be false: https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/medicine_03

        That a smart phone works is because physical laws are at work and those have just as much chance as being “eternal” as your god. Evolutionary theory can’t explain smartphones, other than by showing that humans have gotten smarter over the millenia thanks to our brain evolving.

        You also have the problem that one can say maybe there is intelligence at work in the universe. What you can’t show is it that it is your version of your god. That’s why I always shake my head when Christians think that the ontological argument, the teleological argument, etc are such great things to pull out. They only argue for some kind of being, and even Christians can’t agree on what kind e.g. inside or outside the universe. Since you have no evidence for the claims of your religion, there is no reason to think that the various supposed “logical” arguments apply to the god you’ve made up.

        and we’re all happy that Amanda can count. Wonder why she is so obsessed…

        1. Please keep talking, Club. I appreciate your contributions more than I can express!

          1. Like once a week she spontaneously decides to let us know that she’s still unpleasant.

            “Once again, JB, you provide no evidence that a being more unlikeable than me exists anywhere in the universe. Why is that? Hmmmmmm?”

          2. “You say that I am sweet, and yet Christians voted for Trump! Hmmmmmm!”

          3. well, at least you admit you are obsessing, Amanda. And lying again, how nice to see that you still think your god is an imbecile, and a vending machine that will always forgive you even if you keep intentionally sinning.

          4. I didn’t know you thought God was a vending machine that will always forgive you…

          5. I think he’ll forgive me when I say things like “You’re so sweet” and then leave hearts and kisses everywhere…

          6. I don’t think God is like a vending machine…

            …but I’ve been pushing the same buttons on Club for years now, and I’m STILL getting stuff to come out.

            Aren’t they supposed to run out of product eventually?

            Do you suppose someone opens her up and fills her again now and then?

          7. No. I think she is full of herself. There is an infinite supply of hubris available from her.

          8. The most productive part of this thread has been her changing her name.

          1. Hmm, I’ll call shannannigans on that, jack, unless you admit the same lack of life – as you are still commenting as well ^_^

          2. Yeah–let’s all just admit that we can’t get enough of eachother… 🙂

          3. I can’t get enough of you guys and girls. I am not a sexist like JB and our President.

          4. I’m on board with that, Amanda/Mandy/mrsmcmommy/The Peaches. ^_- This post wouldn’t still be alive that if that weren’t true.

            I can just feel the warm fuzzies overwhelming me now… which reminds me I need to reschedule that appointment >_>

          5. so, since it takes a couple of seconds to comment here, I have no life? I guess if that’s what you want to hope, Jack, then keep on doing so.

          6. She also gave me permission to hope, which I think is a step in the right direction.

  9. and of course JB has yet to show where I’ve made a claim without providing evidence. I’m still waiting for that. Either JB can’t figure out how to cut and paste or there are no instances of this and he is lying again, ignoring his bible as convenient.

    1. You said that your worldview was based on experience and evidence. I just asked for the evidence. It is you who has not provided any.

    1. Jack, I did not say that Trump is an evil dictator. You seem to have the same reading comprehension problems that Amanda does. I said this “How is it that you agree with his befriending murderous dictators who routinely truly persecute Christians?” and this “and Jack, don’t forget that Trump thinks that Nazis are fine people and that murderous dictators who kill Christians are great.” How does it work with you being a Christian and you supporting a fellow who thinks that people who persecute Christians are great and that he loves them? This should be a simple question to answer, Jack. And poor Amanda, she does her best to try to claim its funny to have someone show that Chrisitanity and Christians aren’t quite what they claim to be. I’ve no problem in continuing to do that and watching her and JB make all sorts of claims about themselves that I don’t have to.

  10. so we have JB saying “Ah, there we go, the Vel I know. She has presented no evidence and she wants to pretend she has. So, she falsely accusing me of telling lies. Thanks again, Vel. You have beautifully demonstrated what happens when someone allows themselves to be consumed by hate. Ladies and gentlemen, if you don’t want to be Vel, I recommend Christianity.”

    For all of the claims that I’m a piece of software, how is it that we repeatedly see that JB and Amanda do no more than repeat what I’ve said, like a piece of software? So, we still have no instances where I’ve made a claim and not presented evidence that JB can show. Not surprising. And well, we know that JB has his own version of Christianity and if you don’t follow him, then you aren’t a TrueChristian ™. I wish you luck in picking the right version.

    1. Still no evidence, Vel.
      You haven’t offered a sliver of evidence.
      It’s very amusing!

    1. If you REALLY cared about making a positive difference in the world, you wouldn’t let me have the last word.

      Oops, I have the last word again.

      Sad that you would let that happen.

        1. I honestly don’t know how long it will take her to tucker out. Could be WEEKS. But, when it’s this easy to reply with silliness that keeps her busy enough to compose 4 to 6 more replies, there’s no reason to stop. It’s like throwing a ball for a golden retriever and then letting it do all the work. (Or maybe it’s more like a yippy, hairless chihuahua.) Regardless, I’m not the one running around and exhausting myself. 🙂

  11. aw, one more Christian who disagrees with other Christian that I’m supposed a robot. Thanks, Bb, for showing that again, Christians don’t agree on much of anything. And great to see you add baseless assumptions about me that refute your fellow Christians baseless assumptions. Thank you for acknowledge that I’m not frustrated or angry as others have falsely claimed. 🙂

  12. Ah, there we go, the JB I know. I have presented evidence and JB wants to pretend that I haven’t. So, he falsely accuses me of giving no evidence, and when I ask what evidence I haven’t given, he waves his hands makes more vague accusations and can’t show an actual example me making a claim and not supporting it with evidence..

    Thanks again, JB. You are a typical Christian, perhaps worse than some. You have shown that you are willing to do anything, include ignore your supposed god, to do what you want to.

    1. Ah, there we go, the Vel I know. She has presented no evidence and she wants to pretend that she has. So, she falsely accuses me of telling lies.

      Thanks again, Vel. You have beautifully demonstrated what happens when someone allows themselves to be consumed by hate.

      Ladies and gentlemen, if you don’t want to be Vel, I recommend Christianity.

  13. Adend: club often starts posts with “Ah,” “Hmmm,” and similar words. Always spelled the same and all the word choices tend to confer an aormof superiority. Club-bot NEVER refers to itself personally. Never an anecdote. NEVER any feelings or emotions or hint of frustration. (This is my main case that it’s not a FEMALE Ha! HaHa!) And finally, while it appears it’s replying to individual posts, there are never any specific references to cogent ideas in John’s post. Especially if he posts a non-sequitor. Finally finally… whenever the idea it’s a bot comes up… it NEVER addresses it.

  14. If this isn’t a bot, then it’s an OCD autist waaaay out there on the spectrum. Writing 100-200+’words without a mistake and using massive blocks of cut and paste text is a pretty good sign of bottishness or a real human that might as well be a piece of code in the cloud somewhere.

  15. Does she really not realize how stupid she made her position look in that thread.

  16. Well, thanks for your participation, Jack, Kevin, Amanda and JB. Other than presenting the evidence that JB claims I haven’t presented, I’m going on vacation and can’t spend any more time on this blog right now. You’ve given me a great deal of evidence to support my point that Christians aren’t good by default. You also seem to have a problem with knowing what sarcasm or irony is and that it doesn’t exactly work in the written form unless you indicate you are being sarcastic which kinda defeats the purpose. Generally, it would be if I said “oh you are such a WONDERFUL person.(rolling eyes)” When you aren’t. When you say about yourself “I’m not a Christian.” When someone else, me, points out that you aren’t acting like a Christian, that isn’t sarcasm. Oh well.

    Here are some more bible verses you can laugh at and ignore. Even the bible has some good things in it, like a broken clock that is right twice a day. Humans can come up with some good things.

    “ “You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness.” – Exodus 23

    “An evildoer listens to wicked lips, and a liar gives ear to a mischievous tongue. 5 Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who is glad at calamity will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 17

    “5 But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) 6 By no means! For then how could God judge the world? 7 But if through my lie God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? 8 And why not do evil that good may come?—as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.” Romans 3

    “Like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death 19 is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, “I am only joking!”” – Proverbs 26

    “26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person’s religion is worthless. 27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.” James 1

    1. If you REALLY cared about exposing me for being a Bad Christian, you would write at least another 5000 words.

      It’s amusing that you’re giving up.

  17. Well, Jack, that might be since I’m not a Christian that has a god that says to obey people like Hitler, Stalin, Trump, etc. I’m not a sycophant. Your bible says *all* leaders are put into place by your god. Your god is a murderous nitwit if it exists.

  18. The Bible says to obey and submit leaders. When Obama was president I didn’t agree with him but I went on with my life and excepted he was my president. You refuse to do this.

  19. What about Mike Pence, Ted Cruz, and Rick Santorum? Those are moral men who you still try to drag through the mud.

    1. This is the question you should continue to ask. I know it’s tempting to follow her many, many rabbit trails. But if you can ignore all the red herrings, focus with laser-precision on the fact that her hatred for Trump is just a distraction from her hatred from EVERYONE who doesn’t agree with her about everything.

      She doesn’t obsess over Trump because he mistreats women. She obsesses because he identifies with Christianity, which is her favorite topic. 🙂

      She’d be just as crazy if Trump had been defeated and Rick Santorum won the White House.

      Go ahead and ask which person a Christian SHOULD vote for. It ought to be hilarious.

  20. Let me guess, you believe that the ends justify the means. Can you show me where it says that in the bible? Where working with evil is perfectly fine with your god?

  21. Maybe if you bothered to ask me basic questions about my version you would know. But you don’t really want to knock so you’ll continue to ask me idiotic questions about Trump.

  22. so, how do I know that your version is right, Jack? JB has already admitted he isn’t a Christian. You claim that their version is perverted and they claim that yours is. Again, since none of you can do what is promised in the bible, no healing, no speaking in tongues, nothing at all special, there is no reason to think that you have the right version. I may as well believe a Mormon or a Catholic, or an Eastern Orthodox Christian.

  23. and here we go with the claims of how much of a “filthy rag” you are. Again, Jack, why is it okay to follow a man who says that he doesn’t need the forgiveness your god? IT should be an easy answer. What excuse do you have?

    1. Thanks, Club. You continue to claim evidence that you never present. It’s great fun to watch you squrim.

  24. Jack, yep, that is what most Christians say, that only they have the right interpretation of the bible. We have evangelicals, Mormons, JWs, Protestants, liberal Chrisians and conservative Christians and they can’t agree on what this god wants and what parts of the bible to take as literal and as metaphor and which parts to just ignore.

    1. Every religion has parts that are perverted over the years by paganism. My job as a Christian is to decipher what I think the Bible says and tell that to other people.

    2. Well I understand the Bible perfectly( that’s what people call sarcasm), and it does say not to lie.

  25. I am indeed a bad person. But I’m not a bad person because I support Trump’s policies, not his morals that are very wrong.

  26. it’s great fun to watch you, Jack, trying the same games as Amanda and JB are. Now, since you do believe that you have right way to interpret the bible, it’s pretty funny to see you claim it outright.

  27. Thanks, for agreeing with me, Amanda. Jack and Trump supporters are indeed often bad people. And again, why is it okay for a Christian to follow someone who says that god’s forgiveness is not needed?

    1. It’s amusing that you can offer no specific evidence. Thank you for showing that you have no basis for your beliefs.

  28. That’s quite a reading comprehension problem you have. Exactly where do you think *I* am praying? Let’s look at what I wrote again: “I enjoy when you, Amanda, declares this to your god.

    “Dear God, this is Amanda.

    Someone made me upset when she demonstrated how unchristian I was and I’m going to ignore what you say about not following someone who says that they don’t need your forgiveness and who is an adulterer and a liar and a cheat, and who supports those who kill your faithful, jus to spite her. But don’t blame me for what I do. I know you didn’t mean me when you had the author of James say “17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.”

  29. But it’s important to remember she’s not fighting anyone, she’s just saying that we’re hypocritical morons who bow down to Trump.

  30. CLUB STATS UPDATE:

    She has now posted 28 comments in this thread.

    She used the word “Trump” two more times. (Giving us a grand total of 32–not counting the times she referenced him indirectly with pronouns.)

    Also, we should add the term “your god” to this list: 14 times in this thread alone.

    1. Please update us with the number of statements that contain any sort of truthfulness.

      1. She has been quoting the Bible AND writing out long prayers. I would call this thread an overall success!

        (Romans 14:11 …It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'”)

  31. And Club you will “fight” people you’ve been fighting with three people for the last three days.

  32. oh noes, and Amanda has used LOL a couple of times. Oone doesn’t have to be an admin to figure out how many times someone used a word on a webpage. anyone just do “control +F” on this page.

  33. Hello, Kevin. Nope, I won’t “fight” about anything, but I do certainly like to show how Christians can be hypocrites. Not all of them are, but some of them. I know the bible quite well, and I was a Christian, although some Chistians will try to lie and claim I wasn’t to keep up their no true scotsman fallacies.

    In that your god has no evidence for it nor does it do anything, there is no reason to assume a “glor and grace” of this god. I prayed to it when losing my faith. And how did that turn out? Yep, this god did no answer my prayer and I’ve reached the conclusion that there are no gods, just like you have reached the conclusion that there are no other gods but your own, just like every other theist.

    I’ve had many Christian claim that they will pray for me to agree with them. It’s probably been hundreds in the last 30 or so years. In that I’m still an atheist, it seems that your prayers aren’t being answered. Now, why would that be since your god says it will answer prayers quickly, with what is asked, and that any two people who ask in Jesus’ name will get what they want. We have only a few possibilities: 1. this god ignores you since Paul said that this god picks and chooses who can accept it and damns the rest for no fault of their own. This kills the claim of ‘free will that many Christians us. 2. Your god loves atheiststs 3. Your god hates people like you and wants no truck with your nonsense. 4. You aren’t praying in the “right” way. 5. Your god is imaginary. Which do you want to pick since your prayers fail?

  34. of course, Jack, you are the only one who knows what the bible “really” means? If so, why do other Christians disagree withyou and why can’t any of you do what is promised for baptized believers of Christ as savior?

  35. Please do, Amanda, and try to blame someone else for your actions. Is your god, if it exists, quite as stupid as you hope it is? That I’m not so sure about. I’m sure your god will believe you. I enjoy when you, Amanda, declares this to your god. “Dear God, this is Amanda. Someone made me upset when she demonstrated how unchristian I was and I’m going to ignore what you say about not following someone who says that they don’t need your forgiveness and who is an adulterer and a liar and a cheat, and who supports those who kill your faithful, jus to spite her. But don’t blame me for what I do. I know you didn’t mean me when you had the author of James say “17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.”

    My ultimate aim is to decouple the linkage between being a humane and good person and Christianity. Amanda and JB do more to do this than I ever could. Thank you both so much!

    Oh, and Amanda, thanks for admitting that having Trump as president makes people suffer. That reflects so well on JB.

    1. Hallelujah, the pagan is praying!

      #GlorytoGod #Miracle

      Thank you, Vel. I do enjoy when you speak to God. Thanks for admitting that you’re a huge fan of the Bible. 🙂

  36. Time for a CLUB STATS post:

    –In this thread alone, Club posted 23 comments.

    –In this thread alone, Club used the phrase “good/nice/lovely/appreciated to see” in four separate comments. (In one of those comments, she said it THREE TIMES.)

    –In this thread alone, Club referenced the Bible (i.e. “your Bible” or “your holy book”) in TWELVE of her comments, with a total of 26 different mentions.

    –In this thread alone, Club used the word “Trump” a whopping 29 times! (And if we count the term “Orange Messiah,” that makes an even 30.) 😀

    Club used at least one of these words or phrases in 20 out of 23 comments… LOL!!!!

    1. I’m impressed you went back and read all of her idiotic junk. The great thing is the Christians in this thread have referenced the Bible exactly twice( if you count my use of Bible thumper).

      1. I cheated a little… If I go to the administrator dashboard, I can search for keywords and count without having to read ALL of it. 😀

  37. How is voting for the person you want to vote for not taking responsibility for yourself.

    1. I’m going to get a T-Shirt to wear on Election Day that says, “THIS VOTE IS COURTESY OF VEL–WHO LIKES TO WATCH OTHER PEOPLE SUFFER.”

      🙂

    1. I see that you are a liar and not really a Christian . It is good to be proven right when I say that Trump supporters are bad people.
      Bible, Trump, Bible, Trump.
      Now, what do you have to say?!

      😂😂

  38. So, Amanda who did you vote for? Yep, you were right, Trump was using Christian for political purposes. Now, who had better moral character than Trump?

    Then you decided to support Kavanaugh, someone who was reliably accused of sexual misconduct, and you also now support someone who has claimed he has done that sexual misconduct, Trump. We also have Mike Pence, an ostensible Christian supporting a man who says he doesn’t need forgiveness from Christ. People “wag their fingers” at hypocrites, like you and Mike Pence, Rick Santorum, Chris Christie, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, etc.. You want to cite your bible about homosexuals, but golly, when it comes to adultery, you just ignore it and say it’s perfectly fine.

    it’s lovely to see you claim to support Trump now, and say that other people “deserve” him. Ah, I see, it’s that you are upset that no one agreed with you so you need to feel like you are punishing them. So, how does that work with supporting Trump now, Amanda? It’s good to see that you have to try blame atheists for choosing to vote for some anti-Christ out of spite. Good to see that’s more important to you than your religion. No wonder you can’t do what Christians supposedly can do per the bible. You aren’t one at all. A she-goat in name and actions.

  39. Hmmm, so how do your morals, supposedly form the bible work with a man who lies, who is an adulterer, who is a cheat, and who has “policies” that are meant to harm people, just like your Jesus said not to do.

    “34 Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; 35 for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? 38 And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? 39 And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ 40 And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family,[a] you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ ”

    How is it that you agree with his befriending murderous dictators who routinely truly persecute Christians?

  40. always good to see Christians offended when someone shows that they are ignoring their bible as they feel convenient. A “bible thumper” eh? So those Christians who know you are ignoring your bible aren’t Christians then? Plenty of Christians known that they shouldn’t be following someone like Trump. Now, should I believe them, *and* their bible, or you guys when you ignore what you want?

  41. No, you don’t do whatever Trump says. You may indeed not be thinking for yourself. Why does a Christian support an adulterer, a liar, someone who cheats workers out of their fair pay, who is an admitted sexual abuser, and who says he doesn’t need forgiveness from Jesus/God, JB?

    Now, seeing that JB and Amanda can’t do the things that the bible promises Christians could do, there is reason to think that they aren’t Christians at all. But this is a common thing, that Christians claim each other aren’t “really” Christians. As an atheist, there is no way to tell who has the “right” version, if any.

    1. Right again. I’m not a Christian. You’re so smart! How did you aquire all this knowledge?

      1. good to see you admit that you are not a Christian, JB. Your audiences will be a bit confused since you’ve claimed otherwise. Of course, then you’ll claim you were being “sarcastic”. But we both know that the truth will out.

          1. It seems to me that if CSF says the same things over and over I’m going to convert.

  42. Kevin I take it that you don’t believe CSF is a robot since you’re praying for her salvation?

  43. CSF, I find it interesting you like to assume you know what others know or don’t know. It seems like you are looking to fight with anyone about anything.

    Maybe you should look to the Grace and Glory of the God of the Bible and spend some time getting to know Him. It makes life so much more enjoyable.

    I will be praying the God of the Bible, the Creator of all that is, in whose image you are created, that you may experience the Joy of the finished work of God in Christ in His death and resurrection.

  44. I do worry that Trump hurts himself when he does stupid things like insult John McCain a war hero and a man who’s been dead for a year. But if I had him and the Indian Princess Elizabeth I pick Trump.

  45. True. It’s not even a good Bible thumper because the verses it uses clearly don’t mean what it says they mean.

  46. I will say this again robot( it’s being to stupid to be a person). Trump isn’t my moral leader, but I do agree with most of his policies.

    1. And I will say this: I didn’t vote for Trump in the first election. I was afraid he was using the label “Christian” for political gain, and I wanted to vote for someone of better moral character…
      But then I saw what was done to Brett Kavanaugh. I realized the same people wagging their fingers at Trump are ALSO critical of Mike Pence, who is basically the Moral Opposite of Trump. I listened to the people who insisted they would NEVER support decent guys like Rick Santorum and Chris Christie and Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio… And that’s when I decided they’re hypocrites who deserve Trump for a president. 😀

      Every time a wing-nut Atheist writes a long, irrate sermon against Trump, it makes me more likely to vote for him next time.

  47. JB does have it right. Now what does the bible say about liars:

    “but the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” – Revelation 21

    It’s interesting to watch a conservative Christian make fun of his bible.

  48. Ah, I do love when Amanda tries to poison the well, and we’re in a recording media that shows she is wrong. I guess she can’t quite understand phrases like “I see that you are….” I’m am sorry if she thinks such common terms are “gibberish”. It doesn’t see that she or anyone else has trouble understanding me at all, belying her claims.

    Hmmm, Amanda, it seems that the original post is JB trying to convince people to stop talking about Trump’s failures. He admitted that himself. It is unfortunate that Amanda won’t actually explain why she and JB are so interested in telling people to not mention Trump. All she has are these bizarre accusations that I’m a robot. She has no idea what a robot or an AI can actually do. Amanda, if I’m wrong about the original post, please tell me why JB felt the need to post it and you feel the need to defend it.

  49. Alas, Amanda is wrong again. I do no and did not apologize for Clinton and think what he did was utterly stupid and misogynistic. I’ve been asking why a Christian, who claims to follow what the bible says can support Trump, who is an adulterer per Jesus Christ’s supposed words in the bible, the bible repeatedly says that adulterers are damned, who is a known liar (remember the false promise that Trump had evidence that Obama wasn’t a citizen) and Trump has said he doesn’t need forgiveness from Jesus Christ or God.

  50. one doesn’t have to start a world war to be like an ignorant bigot. Do you recall Trump claiming that wannabee Nazis and white supremacists were “fine people”? Now, what does this say when Trump approves of people who worship losers who hated anyone different than they are and tried to enslave or murder them?

  51. Hmmm, I see that Amanda has a little problem in understanding how the term humans is used. Amanda, do you understand that a human can refer to humans as a group? I guess you can’t. I am glad that you keep trying to claim I’m not human, Hmmm, what other humans have done their best to declare some humans aren’t human at all? .

  52. And we have JB again trying to lie about what I’ve actually said. Again, JB, why did a Christian support an adulterer, a known liar, a self confessed sexual abuser, and someone who said that they don’t need forgiveness by Jesus Christ/God?

    Amanda? Hmm, so who *did* she vote for? And what were her reasons for *not* voting for Trump?

  53. One more thing. Yes, Trump has made bad decisions when it comes to women, but Bill Clinton did some questionable things in the Oval Office. Again not saying what Trump does is okay, but you do have to look at other presidents even if they’re democratic.

    1. You will not have any success asking Club questions. She replies with the same type of borderline-gibberish, no matter what. (Her comments are almost what you would expect if an angry, godless 10-year-old was playing Mad Libs… All of the words and phrases are repeated, they’re just rearranged slightly with each new “game.”)

      The resulting mish-mash includes sentences that start with: “I see that you are…” or “It’s so nice that you are…” or “As a Christian you are…”
      And then she fills in the blanks with “still lying” and “still supporting” and “still defending” blah blah blah.

      She has no idea what the original post was supposed to be about. And facts don’t matter (such as “Amanda didn’t vote for Trump”). This is not an opportunity for conversation for her. It’s just a Word Game where everyone types comments with the words “Christians” and “Trump” thrown in somewhere. And that’s why I’ve put forward the theory that “she” isn’t a real person named Vel…. “She” is actually a software program designed to pick up on key words and then spew them back within preformed sentence structures.

      In other words, there’s a good chance she’s a robot.

      1. It’s nice to see a conservative Christian calling names when your God says to be kind and not to support adulterers and not lie and not support liars. How nice of you to demonstrate that you ignore the Bible.

        1. Obviously you are [keyword] because Christians are always [keyword]…
          I find it amusing that [keyword]!

          —-
          Whoops. My software seems to be malfunctioning. Hopefully no one notices…

  54. Just reading some of this thread, and it seemed to me that CSF compared Trump to Mao, Stalin and, Hitler. I would like to see one instance in which Trump behaved like Hitler. I may just have not been paying attention and he started a World War.

  55. Kevin, you seem to be forgetting that your bible says that your god is responsible for anyone who is in power (Romans 13). Your own god seems to be rather obessed with whoever is in power, per your bible. Happily, humans don’t actually believe this and have no problem in removing them. June 6th is time to remember this when humans removed Hitler from power, even though your bible says your god put him there.

    1. See? The robot keeps referring to “humans” like they’re another species…
      #ProveMeWrong

  56. nice to see you ignore your bible, mrsmcmommy. I’m quite happy to know that Christians will follow an adulterer and someone who isn’t a Christian as the bible defines, just like your bible says not to do. Your actions do far more to show that Chrisitanity isn’t important than I every could.

    1. Amanda didn’t vote for Trump. I did though. I voted for him because he’s an adulterer, just like you said. You’re super smart. You figured it out!

  57. John, I enjoyed this article.

    I do agree many people have an irrational hatred of Trump, I also think people have blind devotion to Trump and they obsess over everything Trump does as well. Both of these groups should read this for what it is and stop obsessing over any man (man here is used it the context of mankind or human being, which includes all men, women, and children created in the image of the God of the Bible) who occupies the Whitehouse or any position of power.

    We too often forget who is in control and we often need to step back and just breathe in the Glory of who God is and stop worrying about things we have no real control over.

  58. So, in addition to you being honest about not wanting anyone to mention Trump, you also attempt to bear false witness against me. Please do show where I’m “angry”, JB. What you have done is try to poison the well by attempting to falsely present my comments and “angry” so you can try to ignore them. Again, JB, why are you following an adulterer who claims he does not need the forgiveness of your god when your bible says you should not? Why are you trying to ignore this question and the bible verses I cite?

    1. To everyone reading: Please judge Club for yourself and ignore my inference that she is angry.
      Thanks!

  59. mrsmcmommy, it’s always a pleasure to see you try to be insulting. Perhaps you can answer the question, why are you apparently supporting Trump, who is an adulterer per your bible, when your bible says not to? Why does it bother you and JB that people mention Trump’s actions and words? Why was it so important for JB to try to convince others not to speak about Trump or be concerned with him, to the point of claiming that anyone who is concerned with Trump to be a “raving lunatic”?

  60. JB, again you decide to lie about what I’ve done. Unfortunately for you, what I wrote was neither “incoherent” or “mean”. Here, we can see it again:

    ah, JB, how nice of you to remove my post. Funny how you asked why I was mentioning trump and then were evidently afraid of my answer. It’s the same reason that the Voice of America spoke about Nazis all of the time back in the 30s and 40s. The truth needs to be out there, JB. I suspect a lot of people thought about Stalin and Hitler and Mao when those people were doing horrible things. They spoke up about it and stood against it. I also could ask you, why were conservative Christians like you always thinking and talking about President Obama? Hilary Clinton? Poor Trump just can’t quit her. just like he can’t quit John McCain even when he’s dead.
    Thanks, JB for showing just how a Christian can ignore his religion as long as he finds it convenient. How does it feel to apologize for a man who says he doesn’t need forgiveness from your god, JB?

    It is not surprising that you will not answer my question about you supporting a man who says he does not need forgiveness and who is an adulterer. Your bible seems to indicate that you aren’t supposed to be doing this, JB.

    ” Or do you not know that the unrighteous[b] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

    “I will be swift to bear witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who oppress the hired workers in their wages, the widow and the orphan, against those who thrust aside the alien, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts.”

    JB, you want people not to mention the actions and words of Trump. Now, why would this be? Why do you feel the need to tell people to sit down and shut up when it comes to Trump? As we can see above, your god is pretty clear on who are to be followed and who are not to be followed. I find the bible silly, but it occasionaly has some good advice in it. Why aren’t you taking it?

    1. I am taking the advice of scripture when I dismiss the angry rants of a Godless heathen. Shut up and sit down, Vel.

  61. If anyone can make a case that Clubschadenfreude is NOT a robot, I would be interested in looking over their evidence…

  62. “Just seeing the word “Trump” is enough to ruin your day. If you despise Donald Trump, why do you think about him all the time? ” hmmm, and you destroyed your own reply to my post. How sad. I’ll put it up for you.

    ah, JB, how nice of you to remove my post. Funny how you asked why I was mentioning trump and then were evidently afraid of my answer. It’s the same reason that the Voice of America spoke about Nazis all of the time back in the 30s and 40s. The truth needs to be out there, JB. I suspect a lot of people thought about Stalin and Hitler and Mao when those people were doing horrible things. They spoke up about it and stood against it. I also could ask you, why were conservative Christians like you always thinking and talking about President Obama? Hilary Clinton? Poor Trump just can’t quit her. 🙂 just like he can’t quit John McCain even when he’s dead.

    Thanks, JB for showing just how a Christian can ignore his religion as long as he finds it convenient. How does it feel to apologize for a man who says he doesn’t need forgiveness from your god, JB?

    1. If you’d like to actually respond to what I wrote, I’d be willing to discuss it.

      If you’re just going to say incoherent, mean things, I’ll leave you to it. 🙂

  63. Raise your hand if you watched a guy play “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” on a Theremin, because of this post…

  64. John certainly trying his best to tell people to sit down and shut up when it comes to revealing his orange messiah’s actions. It must be quite interesting to be a self-proclaimed Christian and then making sure your holy book is true by having no problem with following an anti-Christ.

    1. LOL.
      Just seeing the word “Trump” is enough to ruin your day. If you despise Donald Trump, why do you think about him all the time?

  65. Our family only has one anti-Trump family. My oldest brother is a big Obama fan. My other older brother is a pro-Trump funny guy. The rest of us try and minimize the political discussions when we get together. However, my funny guy brother can’t seem to help goading his older brother into a discussion/argument.

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