This week’s podcast posted early because I am clumsy with the podcast publishing system and forgot to set the publishing date for Monday.
This is a discussion about melted purity rings and the effects of jealousy on Old Testament kings and modern day non-royals. There’s a couple of videos to supplement the audio this week because The Peaches tries to accommodate your requests, Pkarlgh.
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“It’s okay for a man to go around naked because it’s funny!”, he said as he was being shoved into the back of the police car with hands protected by latex gloves.
BY hands protected with latex gloves. I swear, when I try to do something clever, God just makes me sit right back down.
I’ll be sure to add “call women into ministry” to the list of things that God can’t do. Right under “sin” and “make a rock so big that He can’t lift it”.
Healing the sick, giving the blind their sight, and raising the dead, are no problem. But the Holy Spirit leading a woman into speaking a sermon? No, that’s too difficult for God to do 😉
Anyway, as always, great podcast 🙂
Tabby doesn’t read comments, so I’ll supply what I assume she’d say here:
” I didn’t say he can’t call women to ministry. Just that he DOESN’T call them to LEAD MASS.” 😉
If Tabby were snarky, like me, she would say, “You already agree that there are similar things God ‘can’t do’ such as call a man to marry a duck.”
Well, for the last remark, I’d ask how leading people to Christ is comparable to marrying a duck.
But, I also thought of the distinction between “can’t” and “doesn’t”- I was just setting the terms to think of vocational pastors as an obedience to God’s call- and not as simple as choosing between working at a Starbucks or McDonalds.
One “good” thing that God doesn’t always do is answer prayer for physical healing on earth. That would be comparable:
Both would give glory to God.
Both have occurred in scripture.
Both still occur today, yet not every woman is called to be a vocational pastor, and not every prayer for physical healing gets answered in the way we want them to get answered.
Of course, if thousands, or hundreds of people decided to give their life to Christ through something a female pastor had said over the years- it would be hard to say that it was in-spite of her choice, and not because of her choice to listen to God’s call.
That would set up the discussion whether the absence of female priests was caused by man’s tradition or God’s inaction to call women to priesthood.
Weirdly I happened to read the comments this time. And yes I agree with Mandy. There is a difference between teachers and preists, and many women HAVE been called into ministry in all it’s forms. But Christ walked the earth and never ordained a woman in his own time, we follow that example and do not ordain priestess. Women are more than welcome to serve in many other ways included becoming a nun. So basically it is part tradition, part God not asking for women to serve in a priest role
Hi, Tabby!!!
Welcome to the blog, Tabby.
I am not sure using “Christ never did it” is a great argument to be using for our standard of what to do as a Church. Jesus never freed a slave, never married, and never had kids, either. The Church has done all of those things.
There were plenty of times that Christ told men not to give their testimony. He told a man with leprosy that He had just healed to not tell anyone. He had told his disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Christ.
Interestingly enough, Peter had to say who Jesus was. Jesus overtly told the Samaritan woman (John 4). And afterwards, He allowed her to continue to give her testimony- and many came to believe because of it.
So if we are to allow “Christ never did it” to be our standard- Christ never prevented women from publicly giving their testimony (being an evangelist). Whether it was the testimony of the Samaritan woman, or the women at the tomb.
But I must confess that I have never been to a Catholic Church for mass, and don’t exactly know what you consider the difference to be between priests and other forms of ministry. My guess is that will be the hang-up in how you view the women of the Gospels being the first evangelists before Jesus commanded his disciples to do so.
The difference between priests and everyone in ministry in the Catholic Church, is their ability to conduct the sacrifice of the Eucharist. The whole idea of mass is not about the “sermon” at all. Everything is done to prepare hearts and minds to receive Christ through the Eucharist. This is something that Christ only gave the apostles (the first priests) the ability to do. They have passed in the ability through the generations. We assume that because no apostles we’re women that they are exempt from this ability in modern times, as well. I didn’t mean for it to sound as though Christ NOT doing something is grounds for what we should/shouldn’t do as a church (which I believe you understood, too) I really don’t want to play word games and get nitpicky over terminology. Christ laid down specific ways to conduct ourselves, and for the less specific we have Sacred Tradition to guide our behaviors.
I guess the problem is the “assume” part of the argument.
It is said that the disciples didn’t believe the women at the tomb, because, well, the women were in deed women in the first century. Could it be that Jesus didn’t choose women to be apostles because it would be a hinderence to spreading the gospel message in that time and culture- and not because of what gender they were?