My reply to the guest blogger’s post.

Quick reminder: This is only applicable to professing Christians.

Bible verses aren’t effective against hardened hearts…

…it says so in the Bible. (Matthew 13:14-15)

Your solution must be found in secularism.

Like Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Pol Pot…

…you determine your own morality.

“Sin” is the invention of religious people to gain power over others.

“Soulless” describes all human existence.

…so we have nothing to discuss.

Go forth. Live life. Flourish!

But to my guest blogger and fellow Christian…

…you’ve got different rules.

 And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment…(Heb 9:27)

And after some measured outrage about the number of aborted children in Canada, you stated:

The question is what is to be done?

Indeed. Something must be done.

Jesus (who lends His name to your professed theology)…

…would likely agree.

2 He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3 And he said: “I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. (Mat. 18:2-4)

Do you suppose Jesus was only talking about ‘viable’ children?

The US legal code wasn’t written yet so I can’t know for sure.

But there is this:

13 For you created my inmost being;
you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
your works are wonderful,
I know that full well. (Psalm 139:13-14)

Of course, this is not modern medicine.

The Psalmist didn’t know what the Constitution says, baby!

I know! I know!

This wasn’t about abortion!

Neither was this:

5 “And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. 6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
7 “Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come! (Mat. 18:5-7)

You can quibble about the word ‘sin’.

But do you honestly think Jesus wouldn’t see abortion as problematic?

In essence, “Don’t cause children to sin…

…but let mother’s choose whether or not to kill them.”

Read verse 7 again.

If there’s the slimmest possibility that abortion is sin…

…shouldn’t defunding Planned Parenthood a least be an item on your To-Do list?

Then you said this in regards to adoption:

Practically, the system couldn’t handle it. Canadians cannot shoulder the burden of the unwanted pregnancies should they all be carried to term. Even if most who would have aborted ended up keeping their children, one cannot reasonably suggest that the majority would suddenly become delighted to have a child they didn’t want, and that all will turn out well.

I applaud your consistent use of the word ‘pregnancy’ vs ‘children’.

Keeps us thinking of pregnancy as a condition like malaria, or whooping-cough.

Nobody wants whooping-cough.

Reading your rationale, I thought of this.

The picture has been captioned many different ways.

  • “Buy me a beer or the dog gets it.”
  • “Get concert tickets or the dog gets it.”
  • …etc.

Your caption might be:

  • “Adopt my unwanted child or the dog gets it.”

Or more accurately:

  • “Adopt this unwanted child or I’ll abort it.”

We can talk about how many children are adopted or placed in foster care but…

AHA! — It’s not enough!

There are STILL unwanted children!

The gist is that I have no right to voice outrage over killing fetuses unless I’m personally willing to adopt the product of every conception.

And if people mistreat their unwanted children, that’s my fault too because I wouldn’t allow them an abortion.

At the same time, I’ve got no right to impose my religious views of abstinence on anybody.

So I won’t.

I won’t impose this on anyone:

11 It is written: “ ‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,

‘every knee will bow before me;

every tongue will confess to God.’ ”

12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. (Ro. 14:11-12)

Still, I wonder if the anticipation of some day standing before God…

…might impact abortion statistics.

Your primary challenge was this statement:

J’accuse. It seems irresponsible to have an agenda without a solution. And if there is a solution, why not enact it before legislation, as in now. Bring the abortion rates down so there is no reason for this conversation. Mr. Branyan, tear down this wall!

After I looked up the first word, I was in agreement with the second sentence.

Even though you’re setting me up.

…”enact it before legislation…” as if I’ve got that kind of power.

You made it impossible to offer my solution when you said:

That is a fool’s errand, if for no other reason than SCOTUS correctly inferring a non-religious state’s interest [and as much as it might pain you to hear those words, in a pluralistic society that advances freedom of religion, it can and will only ever be a non-religious state…

In a pluralistic society there can be no solution.

Pluralism is incompatible with Christianity.

I’m not expecting ‘The State’ to solve anything.

I do have a solution, however.

My solution comes from my religion.

Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. (1 Cor. 7:8-11)

Then this:

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her…28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. (Eph. 5:22-30)

  • Marriage before sex.
  • All children are born into a stable family.
  • Kids know their fathers.
  • Mom and Dad raise kids together.

Astonishingly naive, isn’t it?

Individual responsibility as a solution to societal degradation.

Wishful thinking…

…and if wishes were horses…

But no more naive than reducing abortion to a simple matter of ‘women’s health’.

No more naive than discussing the ‘viability’ of a human life as if you have the foggiest idea how life works.

For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you. (Ro. 12:3)

No more naive than believing that abortion isn’t the unapologetic thinking of self over the welfare of another human being.

It does no good for Christians to talk about abortion as a ‘complex issue’.

You know the solution to mankind’s problems.

You are unwilling to preach it.

How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? (Ro. 10:14)

So I’ll preach it.

Abortion doesn’t kill just babies.

It kills everyone in the vicinity…

…mothers, doctors, nurses, administrators, tissue procurement specialists, lobbyists, politicians…

My solution to death is life.

25 Jesus said to [Martha], “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26 and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?” (Jn. 11:25-26)

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          1. Really?
            Okay … well in that case, have you, in the years you have been exposing it, managed to procure any reliable statistics that you could link to that show how your brand of sarcastic, hate-fueled fear-mongering has in any way helped lower the abortion rate or even helped a fellow Christian who may have been following your blog, for example?

            And on a general basis, are there any Christian organisations that cite your blog as a genuine positive influence in the fight against the evil of abortion?

          2. So if the ultimate objective is to do away with abortion, and your jolly, asinine hateful tactics are not working – which must be quite a surprise for you, I realise – why not take a more positive, pro-active approach. One that nurtures rather that denigrates. One that encourages rather than chastises?

            Use your profession, and your ”Comedy” blog to work toward a viable solution?

          3. My ultimate objective is to speak truth.

            My jolly, asinine hateful tactics are working like a charm. Here you are reading blog posts from a year ago!

          4. Yes, because it is interesting to note that there are other readers ( and bloggers) who consider you as much of a prick as I do.

            You do not speak truth, Branyan,only what you, in your indoctrinated misguided self – absorbed and very selfish mind consider truth.

            Truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow.
            So try to man up and swallow this:
            Your blog is hateful.
            Your blog is ”un-christian” ( in every way the skeptic and average believer would consider the character Jesus of Nazareth is supposed to be portrayed .
            as)
            Your blog is a reflection of your own backward, anti-science fundamentalism.

            That is the truth of the matter.
            And that is why a blogger like Chris took you to task, and why your ego fueled narcissism allowed his guest post so you could, once again, produce another hate-filled response.

          5. Ha ha!
            It’s adorable when you throw the word ‘hate’ around.
            You simple atheist.

          6. It’s okay. I like simple.
            There are people who read along … like Chris maybe, who recognise you for what you are, and are quite likely ashamed at the way you claim to represent their god and their religion.
            In a similar way you might cringe when someone like Ken Ham opens his mouth, so people who would really like to work toward a viable solution for abortion will note you as nothing but a backward jerk who does more harm than anything else.

            And you think this is funny?
            Well, you are a professional ”comedian”, are you not?

          7. ”I cannot care less about your opinion.”

            Of course not.
            Which is why your blog is such a success at reducing the abortion rate.

            Well done!

          8. I already explained why you do not speak truth; only the warped version your indoctrinated mind has concocted.
            Such indoctrination has never helped.
            It is why we have idiots like Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis, and the ICR and people who beleive that by promoting their religious beliefs using ignorance and/or hate will achieve a positive outcome.
            That type of mentality is deranged.
            And this is what Chris was trying to explain to you, and why your indoctrination causes you to” double down” rather than approach the situation with any empathy or genuine understanding.

            That is truth. And until you approach this issue differently then the outcome will always be negative.

          9. I cannot care less about your opinion.

            Your insipid worldview can’t even define ‘hate’ without referencing religion.

            It is you who is deranged.

          10. If truth is your stated ”goal” then surely you want those who read to understand and adopt a different philosophy regarding abortion?

            And do you believe that any of what you post is helping to reduce the abortion rate, Branyan?

          11. I don’t care whether or not my readers adopt a different philosophy. You’ve been reading my stuff for months. You are unchanged.

            And you need to give the atheist definition of ‘hate’ and explain why it’s a negative thing.

          12. Your stance on abortion appears to continue to hurl hateful invective, either because of your indoctrination or simply because you believe it will get readers to change their minds.

            Or are you simply writing this stuff to fuel your ego and your claimed Christianity is just a sham?

            The question remains.
            If your goal is to promote truth ( and one would assume) persuade others who read to adopt or at least consider Christianity as a worldview, then the goal with regard your stance on abortion is to see it reduced to zero.

            So, in all honesty, how well do you believe your methodology is working toward this goal?

          13. Be glad your mother let you live long enough to have to deal with all this “hateful invective.”

            (And stop pretending to care about human life. I walked through the abortion issue with you last week, and you’re still back here saying lines and lines and lines of nothing. Go ahead and DEMONSTRATE how to make the world a better place. Or shut up.)

          14. Your’re simply an indoctrinated fundamentalist fool, and like your father, are part of the problem.

            Offer a workable viable solution to help or shut up …
            No, in fact, rather not.
            Please, keep up with your so-called Christian idiocy, that way normal people can learn to differentiate between what true compassion and understanding is from those of all stripes and the fundamentalist crap the likes of you and your demented old man push.

          15. I won’t respond to your accusations of ‘hateful invective’ until you tell me what ‘hate’ is and why I should stop doing it.

          16. And by not answering you are, once again, demonstrating that what I am saying is more than a grain of truth; that in fact, you have no genuine desire whatsoever to help remedy the situation regarding abortion.

            In fact you have no workable solution at all do you? And this is pretty much what Chris said from the outset.

            And this issue is not only a ”godless” one, as the prevalence per capita is likely just as high if not more, among conservative Christians. And especially within the so-called Bible belt.

            So, if all you are going to do is deflect and continue to hurl fundamentalist infused invective then you are, whether you like or not, not offering any sort of positive viable solution but are, simply part of the problem.

          17. Say something, you’re a liar and proving Ark is right about everything. Say nothing, you’re proving Ark is right about everything.

            *Yawn*

          18. Then demonstrate your bona fides by offering a workable, viable solution that has as its long term goal the (hopefully) reduction of abortion to as close to zero as possible.
            And bear in mind that this is a global issue and not just confined to the USA.

          19. I already told you, WRONG things should be illegal, even though people will keep doing those wrong things.

            I don’t have a “solution” for stopping abortions, because that’s not my goal. My goal is to tell people the truth: it’s wrong.

            If we had statistics that showed rapes decrease when we make rape legal, I would still want rape to be illegal. I don’t want to live in a world where rapists are made to feel GOOD about their “choice” to sexually assault people…just because some idiot believes that number of rapes is more important than whether or not rape is LEGAL.

            Would you want to make rape legal, if it reduced the number of rapes?

          20. Wrong, is a point of view. As your view regarding abortion is not held by everyone, then you have to recognise this or your mission will simply be white noise, as it is at the moment.

            You could have said anything that would have demonstrated some compassion, some basic understanding of the problems and a willingness to find a viable solution.
            As Chris did in his guest post.
            For example.
            More comprehensive sex education.
            Better-funding.
            Suggesting ways to alleviate poverty.
            Condemning the Catholic Church’s stance on contraception.
            Any of these would have helped your position.
            But you didn’t.

            Thus, your ”goal”, like your father’s, which is basically little more than hateful ranting is worthless and will ultimately fail.

          21. We are discussing abortion.
            If you want to start a rape thread, write a post.

            At least offer something viable & workable to help the abortion issue.

          22. Maybe, but at the moment I am still asking you to at least offer something viable and workable to reduce the number of abortions .
            Please do so …

          23. No–you are avoiding MY question, because you already see where I’m going with this.

            You are trying to get me to “solve” the wrong problem.

            I’m not presenting a “solution” to reducing the number of abortions…because that’s not my primary goal.

            Would you make rape legal, if it “reduced the number of rapes”?

          24. No, the thread is about abortion.
            We can get to the rape issue no problem.
            I want you to face the issue regarding abortion, recognise the global difficulties in this regard and offer some sort of workable solution.

          25. REDUCING ABORTIONS IS NOT THE PRIMARY GOAL!!!!!!!!

            WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE ABORTIONS!!!!

            YOU’RE DEMANDING A “SOLUTION” FOR THE WRONG PROBLEM!!!

            REDUCING ABORTIONS IS your GOAL–BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF PRO-LIFERS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG.

          26. No. By not answering I am, once again, demonstrating that your atheism is useless.
            You can’t even define the hatred that you’re accusing me of.
            You simple atheist.

          27. I cannot care less about your opinion.
            Why should I stop being a bully?
            What does ‘hateful’ mean?

          28. If you do not have an answer then why blog about it?

            Provide a viable workable solution.
            At least offer something tangible.

          29. I’m asking YOU why the abortion rate should be reduced.
            Why do you give a shit?

          30. We’ll get to that, no problem.
            First, let’s get the issue regarding your view to this issue and why you seem to refuse to alter your current approach?

          31. His current approach is working just fine, for his goals….

            Again:

            WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS!!!!

            REDUCING ABORTIONS IS your GOAL–BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF PRO-LIFERS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO DETERMINE WHAT’S RIGHT AND WHAT’S WRONG REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE KEEP DOING WRONG.

            (Did CAPS help, you poor thing?)

          32. No, that is not the issue at all, as Chris pointed out.
            Now, take the caps lock off, stop being a mindless Christian fundamentalist and recognise that banning abortion and criminalizing those involved will not work.

            Offer a viable workable solution to the abortion issue.
            Of you go…

          33. REDUCING ABORTIONS IS NOT THE PRIMARY GOAL!!!!!!!!

            WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE ABORTIONS!!!!

            YOU’RE DEMANDING A “SOLUTION” FOR THE WRONG PROBLEM!!!

            REDUCING ABORTIONS IS your GOAL–BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF PRO-LIFERS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG.

          34. WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE ABORTIONS!!!!

            Ah, so you are, in fact, simply preaching your personal version of morality?

          35. WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE ABORTIONS!!!!

            YOU’RE DEMANDING A “SOLUTION” FOR THE WRONG PROBLEM!!!

            REDUCING ABORTIONS IS your GOAL–BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF PRO-LIFERS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG.

          36. Yes …. as I said, you are determined to preach your version of ethics and morality.

            You can admit to this. There isn’t anything wrong in doing so.

          37. WE’RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO REDUCE ABORTIONS!!!!

            YOU’RE DEMANDING A “SOLUTION” FOR THE WRONG PROBLEM!!!

            REDUCING ABORTIONS IS your GOAL–BUT IT IS NOT THE ONLY GOAL OF PRO-LIFERS. THE PRIMARY GOAL IS TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG.

          38. One of the reasons for this wide variety is that the goal of the pro-life movement is so basic and fundamental: the preservation of life itself.

            http://www.priestsforlife.org/columns/column7-20unity.html

            Our goal is to create one of the largest online armies that can effectively change the current “culture of death” to one that cherishes and protects life though.

            http://www.prolifenation.org/goals/

            Just two examples ….
            Now, instead of continually flapping about in the wind let’s see you offer a genuine response and provide a viable and workable model to reduce the number of abortions.

          39. Reducing abortions is YOUR goal (because you know abortions are bad things)–but it is not the only goal of pro-Lifers. The primary goal is to tell the truth about right/wrong, and make wrong things illegal.

          40. He has not admitted that abortion is bad. You are putting words in his mouth.

          41. Also….he apparently doesn’t know I’ve written a new blog post at my place.

            I assume he’d be over there rattling, since he features in it. 🙂

          42. He needs to head over to Chris Gurshe’s blog and give him a thumb’s up.

          43. They BOTH need to read my blog post.

            It takes their pragmatic approach and applies it to rape.

            Since they believe we can reduce crime by decriminalizing said crime, they should like it.

          44. No. That is not the primary goal.
            Read the links carefully and stop inserting your version.

            Once you have done this, offer up a viable and workable solution.

            If you are able to put your dogma on hold for a few moments, maybe we can extend this conversation beyond fundamentalist rhetoric.

          45. Reducing abortions is YOUR goal (because you know abortions are bad things)–but it is not the only goal of pro-Lifers. The primary goal is to tell the truth about right/wrong, and make wrong things illegal.

          46. Legality is not the central issue, although I admit it forms part of the current perspective.
            But as things stand it is almost impossible to imagine current legislation being overturned.
            And the issue would remain and all you would have done is drive it back underground, and the fight would continue.
            This is what you are not seeing.

            If we are at least able to agree that there could well be a better, and the fact criminalization if abortion has never worked, will not work, then we have to to change perspective.

            Hammering someone on the head will not cure a headache
            And even if you were to get more people to agree with your right/wrong perspective, in the current climate, with the options available, you will not make any meaningful headway to addressing the abortion issue.

            Why is this so difficult for you to even admit?
            Surely the goal of an almost abortion free society is so much more important than simply proving that you are ”right?”

            Why not put aside your dogma and at least offer a better alternative.

            Do you think I would oppose you on this simply because I am an atheist?

          47. Again, offer up a viable workable solution or simply shut up as you will NEVER gain the goal using your method.
            Last chance …

          48. I’ve gained the goal already, you poor, simple man. I’ve made you confront the truth that abortion is wrong. And I’ve written about the ridiculousness of arguing about NUMBERS when we’re talking about something EVIL.

            My newest post features you heavily. (And, since it clearly shows the truth that abortion ought to be illegal, it meets my goals, too.)

            Evil is exposed. Truth is proclaimed. One, small pro-Life victory at a time. 🙂

          49. You have achieved nothing of the sort.
            You are nothing but a spiteful, ignorant, stupid woman.
            If christ existed he would spit in your face. And deservedly so.
            Your kind will never ever achieve any sort of meaningful goal other than your own alienation.
            This is why Chris took your father down.

            You will learn the hard way,Amanda, but you WILL learn.

          50. Kudos. I re-read this comment about a minute later, and it made me laugh all over again!

            That’s a double LOL!

            Thanks, buddy. 🙂

          51. LOL! Not as funny as the “Christ would spit in your face” comment. But still funny.

            I understand. It stings to watch people who actually have convictions make actual progress in the world. All you have is anger, which you spew in the wee hours of the morning, to some American woman–who is almost your whole world. 🙂

            If you want to be effective in stopping religion and furthering your Atheist agenda, you’re going to have to get a more viable, workable solution to the problem that your worldview sucks.

            Meanwhile, I’ll keep working toward making bad things illegal.

          52. Oh, you truly beleive that a country that can produce a President like Trump and an idiot like Ken Ham is representative of the world?

            em><Meanwhile, I’ll keep working toward making bad things illegal.

            Meanwhile normal people will step right over you.

          53. Normal people know abortion is harmful. Just as YOU know abortion is harmful. (Just like rape. Just like heroin use.) And everybody knows harmful things should be illegal. But, you refuse to help me make it illegal.

            My “methods” are just fine. The only problem is how willfully blind and argumentative and stubborn Choicers are, when confronted with the wrongness of abortion. There isn’t a “workable” solution on the planet for unplugging another person’s ears. And I refuse to call murder a “choice” as a compromise with you, because I wouldn’t do that with rape either.

            The only method I need to have is copying and pasting the things that make you freak out and then come back for more. And someday maybe you’ll stop fighting what you already know is the truth:

            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          54. Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self evident and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self-evident, and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          55. Wrong again.
            Your never learn do you?
            Abortion hinges largely on what constitutes viable life.
            And you will NEVER achieve your goal based on this.

            Thus, an alternative is better.
            That alternative is simply to find a way of avoiding unwanted pregnancy.

            And this is what you are not prepared to do. Not because it might be achievable , but simply because it would demonstrate that there is an alternative to criminalizing it… and you could not stand the fact you would have lost!

          56. Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self evident and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self-evident, and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          57. Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self evident and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self-evident, and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          58. Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self evident and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self-evident, and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          59. Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self evident and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. It’s self-evident, and it should be illegal.
            Abortion is wrong–just like rape. Will you join me in telling others the truth?

          60. Here’s another …
            http://www.nrlc.org/about/mission/

            The mission of National Right to Life is to protect and defend the most fundamental right of humankind, the right to life of every innocent human being from the beginning of life to natural death.

            So …. let’s see your viable, workable plan. If you’re being truthful, of course.

          61. Why do I need to alter my approach?
            You can’t explain why abortion rates should be reduced.
            You can’t explain why you give a shit about my approach.

            Shove off.
            You’re useless.

          62. Then please explain why they should be reduced and why your approach has failed before it even gets out of the starting blocks.
            Off you go.

          63. So, you have no answer to anything but religiously infused invective?
            At least Chris was honest.
            You, on the other hand ….

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